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  “Hanging the earth upon nothing”

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you not up to speed on the latest jw trends, one of the key scriptures the jws are using in field serve-us lately is job 26:7, wherein the writer describes the earth as “hanging upon nothing”.. this text is used to indicate the bible’s “reliability”.

  the reasoning goes something like this:.

  “see, centuries ago, people thought the world was flat, or was resting on elephants or turtles, or some such nonsense.

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  TonusOH

  "If they were being guided by a being who literally knew everything, it would have been useful for the book to offer some of this knowledge clearly and directly. Imagine telling us that the Earth was a sphere that rotated around the sun, part of a galaxy of planets that were in orbits around a star. No interpretation required, just information that would make it clear that these men had access to a source of knowledge that transcended us."

  Agree.

  Also, a heads up on mosquito related deaths and how to avoid them would have been nice too. What about the dangers of drinking contaminated water- does it say anywhere in the bible its best to boil water before consuming?

  Mosquito bites and contaminated water have caused more suffering and death than all wars in history combined.
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  Apostate Hunter?

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone heard of this jw guy?.

  apparently he writes a weekly (weakly?

  ) blog as well as having written this book where he claims he disses the claims of "apostates".. to know what apostates are saying he has to be engaging with them or tuning into websites like this one, contravening the gb's direction not to do so.

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  I think I saw the movie about this guy.

  Oh wait, that was Abraham Lincoln, vampire hunter.
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  “Hanging the earth upon nothing”

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for those of you not up to speed on the latest jw trends, one of the key scriptures the jws are using in field serve-us lately is job 26:7, wherein the writer describes the earth as “hanging upon nothing”.. this text is used to indicate the bible’s “reliability”.

  the reasoning goes something like this:.

  “see, centuries ago, people thought the world was flat, or was resting on elephants or turtles, or some such nonsense.

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  joey jojo

  Genesis chapter 1 is full of scientific errors and its interesting to see how apologists deal with them.

  Argument:God created vegetation before the Sun, so how did the plants survive for eons?

  Apologists: God had already created light on day 1 and thats how.

  Argument: We only have light becuse of the Sun- it gets pretty dark at night- light from the Sun isnt pervasive at night. The Sun wasnt created until after the vegetation.

  Apologists: But it says God created the heavens on day 1.

  Argument: The hebrew word for sky, 'hassamayim' also means 'air', the place where birds fly, it doesnt mean the place where the sun, moon and stars exist.

  Gen 1:1 could be translated , 'in the beginning God created the sky and the earth', which gives a completely different connotation to the modern reader. From the point of view of the ancient hebrew audience, the place where the stars, moon and sun exist is the 'firmament' (raqia), which translates to something like a flat,beaten sheet of metal.

  And we havent even got to the flood story yet.
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  Is the tide turning against covid vaccines?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. social
  2. current

  have you seen this video about the covid vaccines?

  have you got any views on the information?

  i find it worrying at least.

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  joey jojo

  I dont disagree that there is a link between myocarditis symptoms and the covid vaccine, especially in young males, but catching covid can also cause myocarditis, which complicates the findings.
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  Jehovah's New Light

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what new light from jehovah did you find hard to swallow?.

  the conversations in the attached video are enlightening.

  the graphic is hilarious.. https://youtu.be/byj3zrpbuvg.

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  joey jojo

  The anointed will all be gone before Armageddon.
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  114,000, Literal, or Symbolic?

  by Wonderment in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a poster wrote to me privately, and brought to my attention the following comment below i made a while back in regards to the 144,00 number of revelation.

  i had casually conjectured that this number was likely symbolic in line with the book of revelation being mostly symbolic in kind.

  he brought up this juicy source:.

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  joey jojo

  Consistency is not a strong point of the wt, unless we are talking about their consistent prophecy failures.

  Consider how they determine the 2520 years of the gentiles and arrive at 1914.

  For the first part of the equation,to get 2520, they use 360 day years. They then magically apply that change to 365 day years for the time frame 607 to 1914.

  It's like multiplying 2 lbs of potatoes by 3 kgs of potatoes and claiming you now have 6 pounds of potatoes.

  Conversion is a thing in maths but the wt is hoping no one notices.
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  Memory and memorization

  by Terry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  3.1415926535807932384626433i used to be able to go to a hundred from memory.

  my son and daughter can do so.age 75 has cheated me a bit in this regard.what sort of things have you memorized (whether useful or useless)?i can recite the entire rime of the ancient mariner to this day, btw.there are many so-called tricks for remembering things that can be easily learned and i've read all or most of those books.the amusing thing about such memory is this: nobody cares!

  "why do you need to memorize when you can just use your iphone?sigh...i memorized the periodic table of elements one day at work.

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  joey jojo

  "Dont memorise anything you can look up." - Albert Einstein
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  Free Will - Does It or Does It Not Exist?

  by truth_b_known in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  being born-in and raised as one of jehovah's witnesses i remember a common theme or phrases used by the watchtower in its theory of why things are the way they are -.

  jehovah created humans.

  jehovah created humans as free moral agents.

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  joey jojo

  As humans, our main drivers are food, sleep and procreation. We spend a lot of our energy around these 3 things.

  Then we have our pre-set expectations, belief systems and attitudes we inherit from our parents to contend with.

  That doesn't leave much room for free will.
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  which Translation Now?

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those of you who still respect the bible, which translation/s are you using now?

  why?.

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  joey jojo

  
  
  

  The reason I ask is because I find it interesting that anyone coming from a JW background and has presumably researched the history/ authenticity of the bible, still wants to study it for personal growth, or find meaning in its content.

  I know there are some beautiful words and thoughts in it but there are also a lot of disturbing ones.
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  which Translation Now?

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for those of you who still respect the bible, which translation/s are you using now?

  why?.

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  joey jojo

  Apart from reading the bible for research, or other academic purposes, do you guys believe the bible is the inspired word of God?